“The Final Ploy of the Desperate” Natural Gas Opponents

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Sometimes the other side in the natural gas debate makes the best case for our side. If you are looking for an example, check out our Sautnergate story from last summer.  There is a new example from northeast PA’s recent “celebrity” visit.  Local activist Vera Scroggins (who always asks for respectful debate) shows us, in this latest episode, exactly what she means by that respect. 

Readers of this blog are very familiar with the name Vera Scroggins, a/k/a Vera Duerga, who has appeared in several stories and frequently comments on our posts.  Indeed, she’s one of our favorite commenters, someone we can actually converse with (most of the time).  She also gives tours of the Dimock area, lots of tours, in fact.  Last week she held a tour with Yoko Ono (net worth: $500 million), Sean Lennon (net worth: $200 million) and Susan Sarandon (net worth: $50 million), all the while yelling about the tyranny of the 1% over the rural poor.  Only in America!

photoThis was followed by Vera (pictured to left) posting a video of herself confronting Phelim McAleer, producer of FrackNation, as he confronted the top tier of the real 1% to ask them why they seem to have rejected the EPA’s conclusion that Dimock’s water is safe.  Unbelievably, it all took place at a junkyard where any reasonable person might look for causes other than natural gas development for water issues, like fluids leaking from abandoned cars into a nearby stream, for instance. But, once again, that  seemed to be ignored by the assembled luminaries who came to northeast Pennsylvania to send a political message.

Why would Vera post this video? She might think it adds to the moment. If that’s the case, it proves, yet again, there is nothing so illogical or strange as an anti-gas activist on a crusade. Regardless of why it is posted, the message it sends is rather clear. Facts, circumstances, contradictions and reason drift away into the air like embers from the junkyard burn barrel if they don’t fit the activist narrative.  Here’s Vera speaking for herself, although we’ve added a counter so you can keep track of all the nice things Vera had to say:

Bear in mind this is the same Vera who has offered the following comments on our blog:

Vic, that’s the best you can do is call me names — that’s the final ploy of the desperate.
2013/01/20 at 7:23 PM

Is that the best you can say, Loren, is insult people who you don’t agree with; a rude, low-blow shot?
2012/12/30 at 8:47 AM

May we respect one another as much as possible as we pursue our particular beliefs and understanding?
2012/11/26 at 9:31 AM

We all have our particular viewpoints and beliefs; nothing can really change another’s view. We can listen respectively to one another and then follow our “Truth” and stand for what we believe. There’s always at least two sides to any issue. this is Life.
2012/08/22 at 6:57 AM

An interesting dichotomy to be sure.  ”What a country,” as Yakov Smirnoff would say.

Comments

  1. timkay says:

    i seen Phelim hat fly off into the mud, I was unable to see how that happened, yet vera’s video doesnt show that either??? i believe it was tossed off his head.

  2. timkay says:

    Dear world, Please understand that this person does not represent The residence of PA. We are not like this and do not make it a practice to treat people and other humans with such disrespect. I once told vera on this comment blog, after she insulted me, that i am sure she is a nice person, well i was wrong. the woman who preaches peace does not practice it. This video is disgusting and vulgar. I can not believe anyone would be proud to put such garbage on youtube and be proud. Please Mr. Macaleer accept my apologizes for the treatment you recieved from these people, who do not represent the residence of this area. Thank you Vera for showing the world what you really are, i do not believe any respectful person would support you on this, if they do it doesnt say much about their character.

    • Victor Furman says:

      bravo

    • Janet R says:

      What sort of f…. is Vera, and how ignorant can she be? A person who has a valid stance on something should at the least engage in debate of opposite views. Science and the truth shall prevail.

  3. Fred Peckham says:

    “we don’t answer freaks”, the anties don’t answer anything or anyone other then their own because they have no answers, that would require facts that they seem to be very short of!!!

    Thank you Vera we appreciate you showing us your ignorance and predudice of others, you have shown us the antie way, decent will not be tolerated.

    • well, you don’t see or know the whole story. He visited Dimock while he was producing his so-called phony “documentary” and told the litigants that he was producing an anti-frack production and it was instead a pro-frack one and he presents information partially and that was why I asked him to leave and he wouldn’t after we repeatedly told him to leave as he kept repeating which became harassment of the visitors from NYC.
      so, I lost it and called him names and told him to get lost and we weren’t answering his repeated question, which we did and he wouldn’t hear of it
      and finally he left.
      anyway, any thing I or we anti’s do you will find fault with; I ‘ve been talking politely for a long time and you’ve found fault with all I say and now I’ve lost my patience with this intruder who was not invited and asked to leave and I know of his earlier behavior as he used the litigants to get whatever info he could to twist and exploit.
      I know you will be outraged by what I write now and that is your way of handling anything that doesn’t agree with your position.
      and don’t tell me you don’t lose your patience and temper sometimes and haven’t maligned us regularly no matter how saintly we may walk and talk.
      so , have your fun and jollies with this and show yourselves as no better than me.

      • Victor Furman says:

        Vera thats not the truth and you know it.

      • Richard Latker says:

        I don’t mean to pile on, Vera, but if it really was a matter of “losing it”, an apology wouldn’t go amiss.

        Sure, it may seem unfair that your adversaries are held to a lower standard than you are. But wisdom on the subject isn’t hard to come by. Think of the abolitionist Quakers, or Gandhi, or MLK.

        When you are agitating against forces more powerful than you, there are really only two choices — violent resistance, and non-violent resistance. In Western democracies like ours, the latter is the almost always the correct choice, even if it isn’t the easiest one.

        Hurling invective and abuse at any individual has no place in non-violent action. It’s in fact contrary to the essential principles of non-violence, which emphasise appealing to the humanity of your adversaries. As should be plain, such behaviour can be used with great effect against you AND the cause you support.

        For a guide to personal conduct in non-violent resistance, read Gandhi’s “The Story of my Experiments with Truth.”

      • Emily says:

        Proverbs 15:2 The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouth of the fool gushes folly.

      • What a witch, its going to be fun tracking this persons antics and exposing the “freak accuser” for a long long time.

        • Moss says:

          She was an embarassment to us all…!!!

          Please Mr Phelim… do not lump us in with the likes of her.. you are welcome anytime in our home…

        • Moss says:

          You are so right… she calls herself an American but I witnessed her and her family not standing to salute the American Flag at a local event. What does that say of her “motives”.??Fame Seeker? When she is in town folks cross the street to avoid her… We hope she moves to New York where she will be free of our clean, clear, wonderful water….

        • Moss says:

          yah… me too

      • Bill says:

        Why not just answer the questions instead of being juvenile?

      • timkay says:

        Lets get one thing straight, Phelim is not an intruder. HE WAS INVITED HERE. There are more than you and ray and craig in this town, we are tired of you trying to silence us ! WE have a right to a say, we have a right for someone to ask questions on our behalf ! WE have a right to be spoken too, you bring people here, feed them only what you want them to see, Well there is more to it than what you say and someone has to show the world how beautiful our home still is, LORD KNOWS YOU ARE WORKING OVERTIME IN TRYING TO SLANDER THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY SO YOU CAN STOP DRILLING, WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US! This isnt just about you and what you want, your actions affect all that live here, I dont want or need your protection, sorry the world doesnt revolve around you and what you want. Can you prove Phelim Lied, or is that what julie told you ! or is it what was assumed, when he asked to speak to her. If you can not prove it and it is hear say, well than it is more slander on your part. I was there Phelim was very patient and what makes you think we dont have a right to ask these people why they are here, why they only visit who you tell them too. Vera you are out of control, you respect no one in this community !!! This is an entire community, this is our home too. ITS NOT ABOUT YOU AND ONLY YOU. ALSO your abusive behavior was in the begining of his arrival, he had only just walked over their when you began your outburst, He was invited to our community, remember its ours too. You can justify this all you want, but wrong is wrong.

        • jessie says:

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          Thank you – thank you! Craig and Vera are the outsiders – they should go back where they came from – we who have lived here for generations and appreciate our family, neighbors and friends do not need your lies and garbage spread through our county. Do you honestly think people here respect you?! You should take a poll – we are sick of your trash talk, lies, foul mouth garbage and I could go on and on. If you are so unhappy here why don’t you leave – you own NO LAND here and we would all help you pack your bags.

      • timkay says:

        One more thing, Talk about unwanted guest. You have insulted Phelim for being there, although he was invited by others that live here. Can we discuss you and your tresspassing on others property, asking questions to people while they try to work, although they ask you to go away, but you dont ! Gettin peoples business cards and then continue to call them and leave messages? you dont even know them, they dont want to talk to you! you are accusssing Phelim of doing exactly what you do, the difference is Phelim was a wanted guest, you on the other hand have become a thorn in our side, how many private properties have you tresspassed on? how many workers have you filmed that didnt want to be? remember they are just everyday people like you and me, well me anyway. (you sure didnt like Phelim filming you, you were in public though, he can, but you screamed i dont give you permission) Those workers dont give you permission either, you still do it and you dont care. People have had to get court orders to keep you off the land, you are not doing us a service you are harrassing your neighbors and possibly once friends. Vera please look at yourself in the mirror and think about the things you have claimed Phelim has done(yet invited to do)and ask yourself if that is not exactly what you have done? yoiu are not excused from behavior because you believe it to be whats best for all, you dont speak for all

      • Kurt says:

        Typical Progressive/Socialist response, i.e., ridicule. It distracts from the real issues and argument. Alinsky 101.

        Progressive/Socialists avoid facts, logic and sound reasoning. Their views are based on “feel goodisms”.

        • pastol says:

          Kurt, why are you so quick to politicize this? I am a “Progressive” (but no where close to a Socialist, a word thrown around a lot these days) and I, along with many of my peers, are in agreement with you and your peers. Stop trying to draw lines of division and maybe we can work together on issues like this.

        • Moss says:

          What the heck did you just write?

          Don’t try and dazzle us with your wit and edu… say what you want to say…in english please!

      • Carbonicus says:

        Vera – your rant still doesn’t answer one question. The only one that matters:

        Did USEPA find that wells were contaminated from fracking in Dimock, PA, and did they thus require remedial action?

        Don’t obfuscate. Just be honest with what EPA found.

        You lose on the facts and the science. The celebrity propoganda and misinformation machine doesn’t pass the red face test when I”m holding the data that shows the opposite of what you, the celebrities, and the eco-NGO’s are feeding a willing media and a sophomoric populace.

        Fearmongering and rallies don’t cut it against lab detection limits now in the parts per trillion.

        (and don’t dig yourself a bigger hole, Vera. I’m a 25 year veteran of the environmental industry and you’re an activist).

        • Very well said, Carbonicus: “You lose on facts and the science”. All insults and hysteria aside, it comes down to just that – facts and science. Perhaps that is why Vera and her ilk resort to childish behavior. It’s all they have.

        • Moss says:

          Yea!!!

      • dave says:

        Vera,
        You state ” I lost it” ” I lost my patience”
        Then why did post this on YouTube? If you were truly, temporarily upset, you would have destroyed the footage. Your judgement comes into question here, and it indicts you. This reveals your true inner self as well as your stubborn inner convictions. Thanks for discrediting yourself.

        • Victor Furman says:

          Ignorance is bliss

        • dj says:

          Well said Dave! That is exactly what I was thinking.
          It’s hard to take anyone seriously when they rant like a school yard bully.

      • Kirk says:

        Yeah Vera, it really looks like those people thought they were contributing to an anti-fracking documentary. Sounds to me like they were smart enough to accept Cabot’s offer and you weren’t and thus are trying to ruin their live.

        • Moss says:

          Uhhh vera does not own any land…I actually think she rents a house… just sayin

      • Aaron says:

        You know that the majority of residents do not agree with you. You know that the water of Dimock passed the EPA’s tests. Yes Phelim misrepresented his film so he could get honest answers from people like you. As soon as you here “pro-frac” you shut your brain off and revert to name calling. I have Fracked for 7 years, all over WY, CO, UT, TX, CA, WV, PA, OH and Egypt. You have no facts on your side what so ever… or you would be talking about them, instead of juvenile name calling.

      • David Duncan says:

        Vera,

        You distinguished yourself as a kook whose argumentative technique is nothing but ad hominem attacks. Inasmuch as ad hominems persuade no one of anything except to convince others of your own internal problems, your attacks more accurately reveal your exhaustion and helplessness in your fight against sanity.

        It’s clear you’re in the process of resigning yourself to the inevitable, which is more well drilling in the Dimock area. Prosperity for others, but possibly not for you? Who knows? Who cares?

      • Elliot Moss says:

        I’ve seen Fracknation & it is not about lying. It is about getting to the truth. You don’t want the truth because it differs from your belief system. Try using some common sense – go see Fracknation & I’m sure that (if you can possibly let go of your unrational bias)you will understand that Josh Fox LIED (repeatably)! Also, the way the documentary was financed was wonderful. if Cuban was one of the people to give $$, it only shows that he has a brain.

      • Joe Mcbride says:

        Vera, Have you ever heard of capital letters or commas? Your ignorance is not only shown through your words and actions, but by your obvious third grade writing skills. Whether you like it or not, this is still America, and that gentleman had every right to be there as you did. Climb back on your broom and fly back to planet Obama where you belong.

        • Moss says:

          Hey… what’s with the broom insult??

          I love my broom…
          and I do not like Odumbo…
          Good reply to vera tho …( notice I did not capitalize her name?)
          She is just angry she came off lookin so stoopid!!

      • So, every time you’ve been asked by someone on the ‘pro’ side to leave has been complied with? I can assure you it hasn’t and if you’d direct your attention to a little document called the Bill of Rights you will notice that people have the freedom of speech in this country. Your claim of “lost patience” as a viable excuse for stooping to the level of a 3rd grade insult contest is laughable at best and contradicts how you portray yourself and destroys any credibility you claim.

      • jmac says:

        So typical of your generation Vera:
        • “The truth is whatever the hell I say it is.”
        • Vulgar comments and ridicule against anyone who disagrees with you
        • Name calling
        • Childish antics
        • Attempts on a public forum to defend the very actions you damn someone else for.

        Here is a thought Vera, why don’t you try reason, truth and logical argument instead of childish, emotional outbursts; how about showing respect to your “opposition” knowing it will garner respect. Why not try acting like an adult?
        I understand that being a liberal involves hate, irrational thinking, complaining and whining like a 2 year old but maybe, just maybe you could rise above such base stupidity and find an audience more receptive to your ideas. Or you could just continue to preach “respect” and “no name calling”.

    • The trust fund hippies, aka granola crunchers, from NY, CT and MA have destroyed Vermont, outnumbering the natives, are presently destroying New Hampshire. Hopefully they can be stopped in PA. Frack away! Go for it!

  4. Victor Furman says:

    I love the counter oon the video….

    Vera Thank you for being you. it’s between you and Bill Huston on who will be awarded the “BEST NATURAL GAS ADVOCATE OF THE MONTH”

  5. alan aszkler says:

    Funny how all of these celebrities know about Dimrock ask them if they now what is in the water down the street in Centralia. PA

  6. ken beers says:

    Tom, Thanks for posting this for all to see. Although it should read desperate people do desperate thing’s! Unfortunately for them, fortunately for us this is what represents the elite? What a class act! I am pretty sure that her new friends gave her the old thumbs up when she got back on the bus. Good job vera, your loud mouth friend didn’t do to bad either. Thinking she should have read the book (how to win friends and influence people) . Apparently they got bill H’s memo a little to late :P eople please practice compassion, forgiveness and gratitude! We are at war! When we are fighting amongst ourselves this means THEY ARE WINNING!!! Phelim McAlear thank you for being respectable and not lowering yourself to level, and thank you for FrackNation, great documentary, fantastic job!

  7. TanaColl says:

    I am completely appalled at this woman’s disrespect. It sounds to me as though she is using this behavior as a defense mechanism because she has nothing to back up the negative allegations. There is no scientific proof, it’s all hearsay. It’s very sad and I feel sorry for her and the group she associates with. Just as Tim Kay said she does not represent the residents of Pennsylvania. I am a proud Pennsylvanian who is glad that the natural gas industry is here to help these small towns prosper again.

  8. Gary says:

    Desperate measures it looks like to me….can’t answer questions, blocking the camera…quite childish I must say.

  9. Donald Roessler says:

    It’s not just Vera either. They all act like that. Uneducated, rude, and vulgar.

  10. Kori West says:

    What the heck is wrong with liberals??

  11. Tony says:

    I am currently working on aproject in China and showed this video to some of my Chinese friends and collegues. The instant reaction of the older ones was that this was identical to the tactics used by the Red Guards against perceived “intellectuals” during the cultural revolution. These intellectuals who did not toe the dogmatic slogan based story were sytematically pursued, abused and villified in so-called “struggle” meetings. It really reflects the ridiculous banality of these people and their methodologies. “So lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring”

  12. Lisa says:

    She likes to post videos and delete any postings she doesn’ t agree with. She once accused me of threatening her and I told her she better never show up around my property because she would regret it. And I mean it.

    • Observer says:

      She and Shaleshock media share the censor button, making sure only 1/10th of the truth gets out there. The rest of us who know the realities are blocked with this message:

      “Tho owner of this video has blocked you from commenting”

    • Moss says:

      I think I like your style Lisa!

  13. Richard (come see me, Vera) Rafail says:

    Vera, you sound ignorant, spurting out pithy little comments, just as they always do when confronted with a issue they cannot defend in a debate or conversation with truth and facts. Your world is getting ready to shrink and to topple because it is based upon lies and deception to the people.

  14. Typical of the left. When they can’t argue against logic or common sense, which is often, they resort to childish, vulgar insults. What a small child Vera is. However, I would expect nothing more than the typical utter lack of class that her side resorts to every single time they engage in a “debate”.

    • pastol says:

      I believe that you mistake the “left” for gold-diggers.

  15. Richard Latker says:

    Wow, Vera … that’s pretty appalling behaviour. EID has every right to call you out on it. Just because the film ticked you of does not give you the right to sink the level of thugs. Your commitment & passion doesn’t excuse.

    Does this typify the behaviour of anti-fracking activists? Maybe not, but “the movement” (if you call it that) nonetheless has to take responsibility for it.

    The consequences for such self-indulgence won’t only be humiliating spots on pro-frack blogs like this. Some people on the opposite side of the issue will undoubtedly use this as an excuse to treat well-mannered anti-frackers in the same fashion. It will also undoubtedly alienate any number of people who might othersie sympathise with your point of view.

  16. Josh says:

    She sounds like she’s got an affinity for jug wine.

  17. NY4GAS says:

    Vera, the comments you made were quite telling of your personality. It is quite clear how you would treat a disabled person that may have been a victim of a fall. You have indicated that you would refer to such a person as a “freak”. Would you likewise consider a person inflicted with downs syndrome or other similar dibilitating conditions as a “freak”. If not, how would differentiate between those that may have suffered a fall or those that were unfortuantely born with a defect. You are a nasty thing! No surprise, its typical of the anti-gas hippies.

  18. Observer says:

    I think you guys are being to rough on Vera. What has she done other then to give tours full of misinformation to politicians from NY. Or telling people they cant attend a meeting open to the public cause there for natural gas, Or asked people to sign not only their names to a petition but their friends names as well. When she ever called an emergency response team to report her yard full of Dog doo as a strange smell coming from a well site. you should forgive her for her bigotry and judgements on others, you know practice what she preaches and attend laugh yoga and just laugh at the fact it is people of her character that has denied you of your right to access your minerals. Laugh at how some of us who could have taken a well deserved vacation 4-3 -2 or even 1 year ago but died waiting when they should have been enjoying the same economical benefits they are in PA.

    It’s not all Vera’s fault though, she is just a pawn to the cultist leadership whe even now call themselves hero’s of the movement to stop drilling in NY, Like Commandant Sandra Stiengraber who is educating educators of our children on how to speak out against drilling not based on the science but on fear orientated opinion. Vera is star struck by the .0oo5 percent who live in mansions as the condemn the NY farmer to a slow financial death. By Yoco Ono who heats her home with natural gas and drives a 150.000.00 Mercedes telling us to conserve and do without, and uses some of her 500,000,000 dollars to suppress your rights, Along with her son Sean, umbilical cord never severed from his mother, and himself worth 200,000,000 dollars

    No you should not judge these activist against your rights. because they certainly are not against Natural Gas. I bet you even now these people have there homes heated with clean burning natural gas. Hypocrites all of them and if NY falls for their BS and bans gas who’s fault will it be…. Not Vera’s she is just a pawn in this game just like the Saunters . Hell I bet those who watch the video of her above are just as embarrassed of her as they are of Bill Huston.

    All this next week you must do and have your friends and family do what we have done before. If we let up now this well organized opposition being financed with millions from Yoko, Shawn, Sarandon, Park foundation, United Arab Em rite’s and even Russia may influence Cuomo’s decision on the 13th of February.
    Call the governor at (518) 474-8390. tell him that you want to save the farm and your homes and that safe gas drilling is what will do it. Tell him you know of the political pressure being put on him but remind him that 66 percent of that pressure is from other states outside of NY. Tell Him it is wrong that a group of paid activist who travel the country and ask people to call his office is not what should dictate NY’s future but that it should be dictated by those of us who live here. BY THE SCIENCE AND THE FACTS JUST LIKE HE SAID 2 YEARS AGO.

    Do this in the words of the oppisition over and over again because it is for you.

  19. Richard says:

    These people never want the truth to come out, they have a need to control other people’s lives with lies and half truths. They fit nicely into communist regimes

  20. Greg says:

    Could you imaging if the shoe was on the other foot? What if pro-gas development people acted this way to someone visiting their town? It would lead MSNBC as another so-called example of Pennsylvania small town ignorance. What this woman, Vera, doesn’t understand is that she has just produced and is promoting an incredibly powerful message supporting many of the points Phelim makes in his film, that the anti’s simple resort to name calling when they are confronted with serious questions because they don’t the real answers to be exposed. This entire field trip was a disaster for Yoko and the gang. We need to promote this video every way possible to show the ignorance of people who care more about media opps than real facts.

  21. Observer says:

    quote from the anti camp

    ” should Cuomo allow drilling, there will be civil disobiedeance, although we advocate for non violence there are those amongst us who have their own mind set”

  22. Jared says:

    “Vic, that’s the best you can do is call me names — that’s the final ploy of the desperate.”
    Quote from Vera Scroggins.
    You finally made a valid point for once. Good job!

    • Victor Furman says:

      Jarred Vera makes no point on my behalf… the labels I gave her she earned Phelm did’nt

      • JaredM says:

        Not on your behalf vic. The fact that she was calling Phelim names. I was just pointing out that she called herself out. A hypocrite if you will. I agree your labeling was well earned on her behalf.

  23. Jeff says:

    So glad someone is exposing the phony anti-frac activists. Just like other non-scientific, lying activists, they will eventually be exposed. Their viewpoints are more important to them than facts, and they are totally disconnected with the actual American.

  24. Greg says:

    Vera

  25. JMW123 says:

    Wow, Vera, you’re there with your Hollywood pals and you have the guts to talk about the 1% prostitute? I keep thinking I will not be shocked at the rude attitude and actions of these people, and then I run into something like this and my opinions sink even lower.

    People like this do everything in their power to shut down industry, energy protection and then when they do they scamper back to their homes and campaigns supported by the 1% they rail against. Meanwhile, those people who are now out of legitimate jobs are not given a second thought.

    I watched these vultures descend on Lincoln, Montana and shut down the richest gold deposit in the country. They promised the mining company, even though extensive environment protections were in place, they would keep them tied up in court and break them. The area now enjoys 35% unemployment rates, but where is Hollywood now? Jetting around the country to shut down yet more companies and jobs.

    No respect. I have never belonged to a political party, but I may be changing my mind soon due solely to people like this.

  26. LouInPA says:

    at 2:46 does someone yell “ERKEL!” – LOL didn’t know he was in the gas play too. AXS TV is not a dinky organization. Did better than CURRENT tv too! If she’s concerned about losing money on film, she should follow Promised Land” since it hasn’t broken even yet and is now officially labeled a flop.

  27. DockyWocky says:

    Fracking has one attribute that might turn out useful. Disposal of anti-fracking lunacy. Ground up and pumped into rocks thousands of feet underground, it would be an ideal disposal mechanism.

  28. Karl Marx says:

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    VERA

    don’t say another word hopefully they will forget!!!

    ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm

  29. V says:

    quote “We can listen respectively to one another ”

    Oh dear. Someone did not pass 4th grade English, it appears….

  30. Dave Thomas says:

    Could Vera look worse than she does in this clip. Wow, people who have been exposed just last out. Vera is guilty, guilty guilty.

  31. Betty Sutliff, NWPOA says:

    I think we all need to give Vera a big thank you for providing excellent footage without even being asked. It doesn’t get any better than this. It would be great in a FrackNation sequel subtitled “I See Your True Colors Shining Through.”

  32. Pete says:

    This woman is a true representation of the antics and tactics of the anti-gas crowd- scary for sure.

  33. Harry says:

    Any idea if people in Berkshire NY have started to buy tarps yet?

    • Berkshire Resident says:

      Just having them move into our neighborhood has driven down our property values !!!

  34. I wish someone responsible will get the industry to use Best Available Emission Control Technologies…this going back and forth is not getting to why people don’t want them messing up their airshed….1) use electric rigs 2)use natural gas to power engines to frack with 3)flowback into pressurized, ventless tanks. Not asking 4 the moon here, just for some airshed protection….I can’t really ask for water protection…cause the industry can’t and won’t guarantee that. Gotta start someone though… H E L L O EID wanna talk to the industry about these requests?

    • Tom Shepstone says:

      Natural gas is now being used to power rigs.

    • Kim, let me pass along a piece I recently wrote about best available emission control technologies for Visit WellSaidCabot. I think you will find it interesting to note, flaring is the best available emission control technology in lieu of a pipeline availability.

      Piece starts here:

      Before we address flaring, let’s describe the process which leads us to flaring in the first place.

      After a well is drilled and the rig moves off-site, the well is ready to be completed. Cabot will move in hydraulic fracturing equipment to stimulate the well using water. Once the hydraulic fracturing process is completed, the next step is the flow-back period, which returns both water and natural gas to the surface. During the initial phase of flow-back, 100% of the return from the well will be water. Over time, the water rate diminishes and the gas rate increases. This is commonly referred to as “clean up.” While natural gas can be vented directly into the atmosphere, it is more environmentally sensitive to flare the gas – to burn it off and reduce emissions.

      Flaring is safer for the environment because the combustion of natural gas creates CO2 and H2O. Both CO2 and CH4 are greenhouse gases in that they introduce carbon atoms into the atmosphere. While CO2 is similar to CH4, it is a less harmful greenhouse gas (which results in a smaller environmental footprint). Additionally, certain weather conditions can cause vented natural gas to concentrate into a single area, creating an unsafe situation. Flaring prevents the pooling of natural gas on the surface.

      It has often been asked: “Has Cabot considered utilizing an alternative, “greener” completions method?”

      The answer is yes. If a pipeline is available to take the gas, the natural gas is not flared off; instead it is separated from the water and put into a pipeline. This method is called “cleaning up into sales.” Locally, Cabot has cleaned up wells into sales a number of times, as far back as September 2010, and prefers this method.

      It is important to note that Cabot is no stranger to “going green.” In addition to converting both its vehicle fleets and rigs to run on CNG (compressed natural gas), Cabot recycles 100% of its flow-back water. These are industry-leading standards when it comes to environmental awareness. In 2015, the EPA will no longer allow flaring in areas where gas sales pipelines are available. The EPA’s mandate might challenge the industry, but Cabot is prepared and set to exceed the standard.

      What is Flaring and why does Cabot do it

      • JoshFoxLies says:

        Thank you, Bill. A reasonable, knowledgable explanation. Oil and gas companies are environmentally aware….I wish more people would realize that. If they weren’t, they would have been out of the game a long time ago.

        God bless the farmers of Wayne Co, PA.

      • Moss says:

        Well said my friend….

        I did not have knowledge of most of the procedures you listed…
        Thanks and I will be copying and pasting to all my friends here in Susquehanna County..

  35. Christina Countryman says:

    I wonder how beautiful Dimock would be if the Cabot gas company had not been halted by these concerns for so long. I understand that build out is just started there for the industry, and to estimate what the eventual result could look like one must refer to photos of Wyoming or other places where the low population levels allowed for unopposed ruination of vast tracks of wildlands. Those places, if not currently uninhabitable will be for certain when even the most perfectly made concrete casings reach their 200 year life limit. Only the shortsighted self serving and convenience addicted could support fossil fuel extraction, yes Dimock and all of NEPA are incredibly beautiful. Beware killing the golden goose because the egg you can’t wait to get is ROTTEN!

    • Tom Shepstone says:

      Dimock is beautiful because of gas that is allowing people to improve their properties and hold onto them.

    • Fred says:

      What about the Roman aqueducts, made of concrete, not nearly as strong as todays concrete and the Great Pyramids of Giza, over 4000 years old concrete and its still standing!

    • JoshFoxLies says:

      Christina- Be more educated. Reclamation, would be a good place to start. A true environmentalist is a fracking nat gas supporter.

  36. JoshFoxLies says:

    Vera is despicable. Absolutely sickening. She should be ashamed. Her, and Josh Fox, and HBO should all move to Russia….where they will inevitably end up when the truth is finally revealed.

    A true environmentalist is a nat gas lover. Fracking is good for the USA!!

  37. So many posts worth commenting on, so I will direct mine to EID & Tom.
    1) Believe it or not, we still have wooden staved pipelines in use around the world, some over 100 years old, they have been found in Pristine Condition, do not leak, and are being replaced with more modern technology. (HSLA Steel, I hope instead of Cast Iron or Plastic, which may be good for low pressure service lines). Even the Plastic Pipe would not exist without the Petrochemical Industry.
    2) And as Tom knows, my peers and I have been working on seals & other mitigation ideas to allevaite the amount of flaring & stray emissions, which as, Bill desRosiers says, is the most enviromentally correct at present.
    3) I won’t lower myself to comment on the namecalling, but do value the comments made by others.
    Respectfully,
    Don “Luigi” Crusan

  38. james says:

    I am so ill of these people- it’s not Good vs Evil- It’s about jobs, and energy and day to day life. The Pro-anti argument has done more to distract from real information than any other. The 1%- Really? Just cover law- just cover stats and data in a form the people can understand. It is not a perfect business there is no perfect answer. There are no perfect people. There is no black and white- mostly grey. Let’s cut the pro-anti crap and get down to brass tacks.

  39. Wheaton says:

    Please do not think people in the shale area are like this. Vera has gone off the deep end, most likely due to LSD. Which Yoko has NEVER done or opiates. Please let your common sense rule when coming to a conclusion about our area. 99.6% are very happy here and glad to see this happen

  40. Kelly Harding says:

    Glad to see Vera is being filmed in action. This type of language and aggressive behavior is common with Vera and others who follow her. It was a shock to me the first time I witnessed this as well. Thank you EID for showing the world and those who donate money to anti-gas supporters like Vera where their money and allegiance is going. Well, at least they can say they got a good “bang” for their buck!

  41. SouthSideAdvenger says:

    This is what the twisted mind of Vera thinks. Please read this article and you decide if this is a mentally stable person you want representing you? Here is one quote from the article to get you started. FYI- I don’t agree with the article below or anything from vera (not in caps). She should be arrested just for asking these questions.

    “Are there cultures that mothers or fathers pleasure their children and teenagers sexually or genitally and also possibly initiate them into sexual expression at some point?” Scroggins asked in one message.

    http://freebeacon.com/anti-fracking-activist-advocated-bizarre-child-sexuality-theories/

  42. Michelle says:

    I’m what most people would call “far left”, but this woman is doing more harm than good. She sounds like a hateful, irrational and judgmental loon. This is one of the big problems with the Internet. Anyone with a camera and a You Tube account can make themselves the “voice” of a movement. Nobody wants to listen to hate except the hateful, and it definitely won’t enlighten people enough to bring about change. I wouldn’t follow her anywhere with the way she’s talking in this video. Somebody should explain to her that the great leaders of change are always objective, insightful and peaceful, and they ask questions instead of spewing ridiculous insults.

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